Here’s the next installment with Judge bassist, Matt Pincus. Much more on the way, so you know the deal… stay tuned.
Sammy and I were both into some of the things the louder metal bands were doing at the time, because it was loud and fast, but a bit more sophisticated musically. Obviously, I was heavily influenced by straight edge HC bands, YOT, GB, Bold, etc. Arthur Smilios from GB was pretty much the high water mark of bass players in the hardcore scene, and we all took cues from him, particularly in how to get the right sound out if the instrument. I had an SVT tube amp, which I’m pretty sure I got at Arthur’s suggestion.
But I was also listening to stuff like Leeway, Slayer, early Metallica, even Testament. Metal acts were not so much my cup of tea lyrically and in terms of subject matter, because they weren’t that interested in social change. But musically, those bands were way more sophisticated. So we took some cues from them. Bass / drum syncopation, double bass pedals, precise stop starts, weird time signatures, even guitar solos, not going direct but miking for recordings, etc. It was a place to go musically. Judge was at the early part of that. By the time you got to Quicksand, there was a whole new level of musical sophistication going on.
Live, I was much more into hardcore and the energy that came from that. Also, in a way, the friendly competition among bands made everyone better. There was no live band better than Youth of Today. Anyone looking for stage energy had to draw from them. I loved GB, but they were like the good brother of the hardcore scene. We weren’t as fun as they were. We did an epic tour of the US with Bold, and there was a sibling rivalry type of aspect with them. And then there were not quite straight edge bands like Killing Time and Sick of it All that we would do dates with. It was such a fertile active scene that the competition itself was the influence.