KIRA WITH BLACK FLAG | PHOTO: UNKNOWN
Earlier today I had a short chat with Kira Roessler (former bassist of Black Flag) about Greg Ginn’s controversial resurrection of Black Flag. Below is how the conversation went down. —Ed DCXX
What do you think of Greg Ginn playing in a band called Black Flag in 2013?
Although in his shoes I would not do the same thing I think that he deserves some appreciation that he never got at the time. I am somewhat convinced though, that the quality of it will be judged harshly.
We recently posted the first new song from Greg’s latest incarnation of Black Flag and it was universally demolished by our readers.
Well Greg has been being demolished all along—when I was in the band we were demolished too.
Well, I think that helped shape the sound and is one of the reasons you guys were so heavy and so unique: hate fuels power.
People hated the direction the band took with My War and Slip It In, etc. and they hate it now. It is so easy to criticize. That is why Flag [Dez Cadena, Keith Morris and Chuck Dukowski's Black Flag cover band] is exactly what people want. Not that that is a bad thing, it just doesn’t invite the same criticism.
KIRA ROESSLER WITH BLACK FLAG, 1984 | PHOTO: GEOFF CORDNER
As talented as Flag is it doesn’t feel authentic to me (meanwhile I never saw the REAL Black Flag so I’m not really in a position to judge.)
The point is there wasn’t one “real” Black Flag, it was constantly a moving target back then which was Greg’s doing and he is doing so again.
That is what made it so unique and ultimately so interesting/challenging—challenging to these ears even, especially towards the end.
But also constantly hated.
Which to me is what punk is all about. But that’s just how I interpret that silly word “punk.”
Yeah well I think new and different is punk. I think my band Dos [Kira's band with Mike Watt formerly The Minutemen and Firehose] is punk but the punkers will hate, because it isn’t loud enough or fast enough for their limited view.
Exactly. It’s the attitude and the reasons for doing it more than the sound.
[Regarding this discussion about Black Flag in 2013] just keep in mind that it is just a snippet of how I feel about the thing.
GREG GINN, HENRY ROLLINS, KIRA ROESSLER AND BILL STEVENSON | PHOTO: NAOMI PETERSON